Sam and frodo5/30/2023 In the same respect as Bilbo is related to Frodo, as it turns out. Therefore, on Merry's father's side, Merry and Pippin are also third cousins (sharing the OldTook ? as a great-great-grandfather). Merry's great-grandmother, Mirabella Brandybuck, is Pippin's (and Merry's) great-great aunt. They are also Bilbo's second cousins, twice removed (via Rosa Baggins' marriage to Hildigrim Took).Īre Merry and Pippin related in any other way? Merry and Pippin are first cousins, twice removed, of Bilbo (via Bungo's marriage to Belladonna). Yes-they are first cousins, sharing a common grandfather: Adalgrim Took (who, by the way, was not a Thain). Hence, through their Took connections (Primula is the daughter of Mirabella Brandybuck (nee Took)), Bilbo and Frodo are first cousins, once removed. Since that makes Bilbo and Drogo second cousins, Frodo is Bilbo's second cousin once removed.Īnd (I almost forgot)-Frodo's mother Primula Baggins (nee Brandybuck) is a first cousin of Bilbo on his mother's side. Therefore Bilbo and Frodo share a common ancestor in Balbo, father of Largo and Mungo. Frodo is the son of Drogo, who is the son of Fosco (son of Largo, Mungo's younger brother). Bilbo is the son of Bungo (son of Mungo). To me, it's even sadder than any of the things that happened during their adventures, and I'm not just referring to the destruction of their home village.How are Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin and Bilbo related? Something about the last part of the story makes me feel very uneasy and depressed. According to the appendix list of events, first Sam and then Legolas and Gimli (!) also sail away in the same manner, albeit many years later. which also sounds like an allegory for the afterlife to me. Apparently, Frodo assumes (or has been told) that he will get bliss and no more pain from his wound. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I feel as if this was barely touched on even in Silmarillion, and certainly not in The Lord of the Rings. Sam's best friend is leaving forever, "because he has to", without any real explanation or (as far as I can tell) without any of them having any understanding of what happens once they reach that magical island, far away across the sea, which you cannot get to unless you travel with an elf. Sorry if it seems like I'm not respecting the mystery of the story or something, but I don't like it when things are too vague and when even the characters inside the story don't ask any questions that you'd expect them to do. Is Frodo basically going to Heaven? Once he arrives on those white shores, does he just jump off the ship and start living in a house there and talk with a bunch of elves and gods? Is that how it works? I was more frustrated by this than anything else in the entire epic story.Įven though I have read Silmarillion, several times, and even recently, I don't quite understand if this other continent is actually a physical place, or just a metaphor for death. This is handled in a very dissatisfying manner according to me. Apparently, Sam "had a hunch", even though the reader (at least this reader) is absolutely baffled when, basically out of nowhere, Frodo now has to go with the elves and Gandalf on a ship, across the ocean, away from Middle-earth forever, never to return. Instead, Sam and him just go on some kind of casual stroll (I thought they were going back to Rivendell for Bilbo.) and just so happen to meet the elves on the way. I get it: wear the ring, and you have to go over the sea to the mythical continent of Gods and elves.īut why exactly? Having both read the books long ago, and watched the movies, I knew roughly what was coming, but I expected it to be a whole major scene in the end where Frodo sits down with his friends, or at the very least Sam, and discuss this, with the others wanting him to stay, but he "has to go", and everyone is sad, etc. Okay, so obviously, the Ring has some kind of fundamental, barely-explained psychological/spiritual effect on whoever wears it, even if just briefly (like with Sam). I've just finished the last one in the trilogy, minutes ago, but I don't quite get it. The reason I phrased the title like that is to avoid spoiling the story for somebody who might see it and haven't read the books.
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